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Proverbs 29:9

29:8 Scornful men bring a city into a snare: but wise men turn away wrath. bring: or, set a city on fire
If a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh, there is no rest.

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If a wise man goes to court with a foolish man, the fool rages or scoffs, and there is no peace.

If a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh, there is no rest.

If a wise man contends with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh, there is no rest.

29:10 The bloodthirsty hate the upright: but the just seek his soul. The bloodthirsty: Heb. Men of blood

What does Proverbs 29:9 mean?

Proverbs 29:9 is a verse in the book of Proverbs, in the Old Testament. In the original Hebrew, key words include חָכָם (châkâm), אִישׁ (ʼîysh), שָׁפַט (shâphaṭ). It connects to 9 cross-referenced passages elsewhere in Scripture.

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If
a
wiseחָכָםchâkâm/khaw-kawm'/H2450wise, (i.e. intelligent, skilful or artful)
manאִישׁʼîysh/eesh/H376a man as an individual or a male person; often used as an adjunct to a more definite term (and in such cases frequently not expressed in translation)
contendethשָׁפַטshâphaṭ/shaw-fat'/H8199to judge, i.e. pronounce sentence (for or against); by implication, to vindicate or punish; by extenssion, to govern; passively, to litigate (literally or figuratively)
with
a
foolishאֱוִילʼĕvîyl/ev-eel'/H191(figuratively) silly
man,אִישׁʼîysh/eesh/H376a man as an individual or a male person; often used as an adjunct to a more definite term (and in such cases frequently not expressed in translation)
whether
he
rageרָגַזrâgaz/raw-gaz'/H7264to quiver (with any violent emotion, especially anger or fear)
or
laugh,שָׂחַקsâchaq/saw-khak'/H7832to laugh (in pleasure or detraction); by implication, to play
there
is
no
rest.נַחַתNachath/nakh'-ath/H5183a descent, i.e. imposition, unfavorable (punishment) or favorable (food); restfulness

Commentary on Proverbs 29:9

CLARKE · whole chapter
tes, "Yf a wyse man go to lawe with a foole, whether he deale with him frendly or roughly he geteth no rest." Verse 11 A fool uttereth all his mind - A man should be careful to keep his own secret, and never tell his whole mind upon any subject, while there are other opinions yet to be delivered; else, if he speak again, he must go over his old ground; and as he brings out nothing new, he injures his former argument. Verse 12 If a ruler hearken to lies - Wherever the system of espionage is permitted to prevail, there the system of falsity is established; for he who is capable of being a spy and informer, is not only capable of telling and swearing lies, but also of cutting his king's or even his father's throat. I have seen cases, where the same spy received pay from both parties, and deceived both. Verse 13 The poor and the deceitful man - It is difficult to fix the meaning of תככים techachim, which we here render the deceitful man. The Targum has, "The poor and the man of Little Wealth." The Septuagint, "The usurer and the Debtor." The Vulgate, "The poor and Creditor." Coverdale, "The poor and the Lender." Others, "The poor and the Rich;" "The poor and the Oppressors." I suppose the meaning may be the same as in Pro 22:2 (note): "The rich and the poor meet together; the Lord is the Maker of them all." Where see the note. Verse 16 When the wicked are multiplied - That, in the multiplication of the wicked transgression is increased, requires no proof; but an important doctrine attaches to this. On this account wicked nations and wicked families are cut off and rooted out. Were it not so righteousness would in process of time be banished from the earth. This will account for many of the numerous instances in which whole families fail. Verse 18 Where there is no vision - My old MS. Bible, following the Vulgate, translates: Whan prophecye schal failen, the peple schal ben to scatered. Where Divine revelation, and the faithful preaching of the sacred testimonies, are neither reverenced nor attended, the ruin of that land is at no great distance. But he that keepeth the law, happy is he - Go how it may with others, he shall be safe. So our Lord: "Blessed are they who hear the word of God, and keep it." Verse 21 He that delicately bringeth up his servant - Such persons are generally forgetful of their obligations, assume the rights and privileges of children, and are seldom good for any thing. Verse 22 An angry man stirreth up strife - His spirit begets its like wherever he goes. And a furious man aboundeth in transgression - His furious spirit is always carrying him into extremes, and each of these is a transgression. Verse 23 A man's pride shall bring him low - A proud man is universally despised, and such are often exposed to great mortifications. Verse 24 Hateth his own soul - נפשו naphsho, his life, as the outraged law may at any time seize on and put him to death. He heareth cursing - אלה alah, the execration or adjuration, (for all culprits were charged, as before God, to tell the truth), ולא יגד velo yagpid, but He will not tell It. He has no fear of God, nor reverence for an oath, because his heart is hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. Verse 25 The fear of man bringeth a snare - How often has this led weak men, though sincere in their general character, to deny their God, and abjure his people! See the case of Peter; and learn from this, O reader, that where the mighty have been slain, thou wilt fall, unless thou call on the Strong for strength, and for courage to use it. Be not ashamed of Jesus nor of his people, nor of his cross. Glory in this, that thou knowest him, art joined to them, and art counted worthy to bear it. Verse 26 Many seek the ruler's favor - To be screened from the punishment determined by the law; but should he grant the favor sought, and pardon the criminal, this takes not away his guilt in the sight of God, from whom all just judgment proceeds. Verse 27 And he that is upright in the way - "But as for those that be in the right waye, the wicked hate them." - Coverdale. To this verse the Vulgate adds the following: Verbum custodiens filius extra perditionem erit; "The son that keeps the word shall not fall into perdition." This is not in all copies of the Vulgate: but it was in that from which my old MS. Bible was made, where it is thus translated: The sone keping the worde schal ben out of perdicyon. I believe verbum here is intended for the Divine word; the revelation from God. Introduction Agur's confession of faith, Pro 30:1-6 . His prayer, Pro 30:7-9 . Of wicked generations, Pro 30:10-14 . Things that are never satisfied, Pro 30:15 , Pro 30:16 . Of him who despises his parents, Pro 30:17 . Three wonderful things, Pro 30:18-20 . Three things that disquiet the land, Pro 30:21-23 . Four little but very intelligent animals, Pro 30:24-28 . Four things that go well, Pro 30:29-31 . A man should cease from doing foolishly, and from strife, Pro 30:32 , Pro 30:33 . Verse 1 The words of Agur the son of Jakeh - The words Agur, Jakeh, Ithiel, and Ucal, have been considered by some as proper names: by others, as descriptive characters. With some, Agur is Solomon; and Jakeh, David; and Ithiel and Ural are epithets of Christ. The Vulgate translates, Verba congregantis filii vomentis: visio, quam locutus est sir, cum quo est Deus, et qui Deo
WESLEY · Proverbs 29:9
Whether - Whether he, the wise man, deal sharply with him, or mildly, there is no rest, no end or fruit of the debate.
HENRY_FULL · Proverbs 29:9
him: If a wise man contend with a wise man, he may hope to be understood, and, as far as he has reason and equity on his side, to carry his point, at least to bring the controversy to a head and make it issue amicably; but, if he contend with a foolish man, there is no rest; he will see no end of it, nor will he have any satisfaction in it, but must expect to be always uneasy. 1. Whether the foolish man he contends with rage or laugh, whether he take angrily or scornfully what is said to him, whether he rail at it or mock at it, one of the two he will do, and so there will be no rest. However it is given, it will be ill-taken, and the wisest man must expect to be either scolded or ridiculed if he contend with a fool. He that fights with a dunghill, whether he be conqueror or conquered, is sure to be defiled. 2. Whether the wise man himself rage or laugh, whether he take the serious or the jocular way of dealing with the fool, whether he be severe or pleasant with him, whether he come with a rod or with the spirit of meekness ( 1 Cor. iv. 21 ), it is all alike, no good is done. We have piped unto you, and you have not danced, mourned unto you, and you have not lamented. 10 The bloodthirsty hate the upright: but the just seek his soul. Note, 1. Bad men hate their best friends: The blood-thirsty, all the seed of the old serpent, who was a murderer from the beginning, all that inherit his enmity against the seed of the woman,

Cross-references

Related passages from the Treasury of Scripture Knowledge.

Exodus 13:21

And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night:

Exodus 13:22

He took not away the pillar of the cloud by day, nor the pillar of fire by night, from before the people.

Exodus 14:24

And it came to pass, that in the morning watch the LORD looked unto the host of the Egyptians through the pillar of fire and of the cloud, and troubled the host of the Egyptians,

Numbers 9:15

And on the day that the tabernacle was reared up the cloud covered the tabernacle, namely, the tent of the testimony: and at even there was upon the tabernacle as it were the appearance of fire, until the morning.

Nehemiah 9:12

Moreover thou leddest them in the day by a cloudy pillar; and in the night by a pillar of fire, to give them light in the way wherein they should go.

Nehemiah 9:19

Yet thou in thy manifold mercies forsookest them not in the wilderness: the pillar of the cloud departed not from them by day, to lead them in the way; neither the pillar of fire by night, to shew them light, and the way wherein they should go.

Isaiah 4:5

And the LORD will create upon every dwelling place of mount Zion, and upon her assemblies, a cloud and smoke by day, and the shining of a flaming fire by night: for upon all the glory shall be a defence. upon all: or, above all defence: Heb. covering

1 Corinthians 10:1

Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;

1 Corinthians 10:2

And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;

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Genesis 19:9

And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.

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Proverbs 29:9 (King James Version) reads: "If a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh, there is no rest."

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Proverbs 29:9 is in the Old Testament of the Bible, in the book of Proverbs.

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